Reporter: Nance Haxton
KAREN PERCY: The family of David Hicks has welcomed the US court judgement, but believes the legal process could drag out even longer as a result. David Hicks' father, Terry Hicks, has also revealed that he's spoken with Mamdouh Habib. Nance Haxton spoke to Mr. Hicks outside his workplace in Adelaide's northern suburbs.
TERRY HICKS: I thought it was a good decision. It's a real slap in the face, I suppose, for the Americans. They won't like that. I should say what they will do is, they'll re-appeal, which'll probably put it back again while they're looking at that. I'm not sure if they will do that, but I should say they will.
NANCE HAXTON: What does this mean for David?
TERRY HICKS: Could mean many things for David. It's
it may extend his time in Guantanamo Bay, we're not really sure. We have spoken about this before. By the time it gets to where we want it to get it could be up to three years.
NANCE HAXTON: So it could extend his time, essentially because of all the appeals that could proceed from this decision?
TERRY HICKS: That's right, and also the fact that you just don't go straight into the Supreme Court. I believe that it's gotta go up through the levels again before it's heard. So, yeah, it could be, we always say it could be round about the three years, but who knows, it could be 12-months.
NANCE HAXTON: So, it's bittersweet news for you, in a way?
TERRY HICKS: It is, it is. But it is, um
I think the Americans at the moment, their court system is now starting to look at the way these people have been treated, the way the evidence has been or so-called evidence that these people give out how it's
how the evidence is taken off them through interrogating, tortures, stress-induced tactics, all this sort of thing, it won't stand up in a civil court.
NANCE HAXTON: Will you be trying to lobby Philip Ruddock with your lawyer Stephen Kenney again, after this decision, or, what will you do from here?
TERRY HICKS: Ah look, I s'pose there's a lot of ways we can go now, but the Australian Government aren't interested. They've indicated to us that they don't really care whether David stays there for the rest of his life.
You only had to look at the Habib business I mean it was the Americans that said to the Australians, well, guess what, you've got to take him back regardless. The Australians didn't ask for him to be sent back, the Americans told them that they've got to take him, through lack of evidence.
NANCE HAXTON: Was that particularly difficult for you seeing Habib come back to Australia last week?
TERRY HICKS: Oh, it was, but I think you've gotta look at the overall picture, that there's one back, there's one to go and from our end we're going to be pushing for David to be brought back as well and try and combat the Government's stance that these people are being looked after quite well.
NANCE HAXTON: Have you had any contact with Mr. Habib now that he is back in Australia?
TERRY HICKS: Yeah, I had the opportunity of speaking to Mamdouh Habib on the weekend. We had about a 15-minute conversation. I can't elaborate on what was said, but we had a good talk.
He
it's very hard to judge how he was on the phone. He had his down period, so I don't think he's a really well man, but he did have great delight to say that he'd had contact with David on a couple of occasions.
But as I say, I can't elaborate what was actually said. We're going to have to try and set up a meeting with him down the track to, you know, find out what, and why, and how and see what happens.
NANCE HAXTON: You can't reveal what was said, though, because of the pressures on you regarding evidence, is that why?
TERRY HICKS: No, there's many things I s'pose. I mean, you know, there's
if I elaborate on the conversation, it puts pressure back on Mamdoud Habib, which is not fair. All I can say it was a private conversation and at this point in time that's how I'd like to leave it. I have, you know, I know what was said, and I feel good about it.
NANCE HAXTON: Was he able to confirm to you some of what you have heard about your son's condition.
TERRY HICKS: I can't say, no.
NANCE HAXTON: So hopefully you'll organize another meeting with Mr Habib down the track?
TERRY HICKS: Yeah, yep. Sometime down the track. Look, when the dust settles and we know what direction they're going, what direction we're going, we'll definitely get together and see what we can piece together out of it.
KAREN PERCY: That's Terry Hicks, father of Guantanamo Bay detainee David Hicks, and he was talking to our reporter Nance Haxton in Adelaide.
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